Anthony Curnutt

Anthony is an independent contractor with a passion for ministry. With many years of experience in leading men and families, he brings a unique perspective to the world of Real Men Talk. He started Real Men Talk as a way to share his knowledge and insights with others who are interested in learning how to become Godly, Courageous Men, and to create a community of like-minded individuals. In his free time, Anthony enjoys spending time with his 6 kids, his wife Dustie. You can also join Anthony every Sunday at the Palace of Praise where he dives deep into the study of Apologetics. Follow him on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter to stay up to date on his latest work and projects.

Kyler Sowell

Kyler Sowell is an Instructional Coach for our local school district with a passion for ministry. Kyler is committed to helping further God's Kingdom by equipping men with the tools they need to become Godly, Courageous Men. Outside the Podcast, Kyler has a family a 5. His wife Lacy, and his three children Lynlee, Lawsyn, and Lowyn. Each brings their own personalities, but better equipping him to bring genuine experience to the Podcast as he helps lead them in biblical values. Kyler is an active leader on the Palace of Praise worship team, where he gets the opportunity to serve every Sunday! To stay connected you can follow Kyler on Facebook and Instragram, as well as tuning into the podcast each week.

This Weeks Podcast Notes

Episode Summary:

In this episode of Real Men Talk, hosts Anthony Curnutt and Kyler Sowell interview Pastor Joe Baker, an associate pastor at Crossroads of the Assembly of God in Lumberton, New Jersey. Joe shares his powerful story of redemption and how he went from a rebellious teenager to a dedicated servant of God. He discusses the importance of men's ministry and the impact it can have on the lives of men. Joe also talks about his various ministries, including Game Day, a men's ministry at his church, and Soldiers of Light Productions, an online ministry. He shares his vision for his upcoming screenplay, "Am I My Brother's Keeper?" which aims to address the struggles and challenges faced by men in today's society. Throughout the conversation, Joe emphasizes the importance of men embracing their role as servant leaders and living out their faith in all areas of their lives.

Key Takeaways:

Notable Quotes:

"God pursued me even when I didn't deserve it. His love broke through my rebellion and transformed my life." - Joe Baker

"Men's ministry is about creating a space for men to grow, be vulnerable, and support one another in their faith journey." - Joe Baker

"As men, we need to embrace our role as servant leaders and live out our faith in every aspect of our lives." - Joe Baker

"The goal of my screenplay is to address the struggles men face and inspire them to be servant leaders in their families and communities." - Joe Baker

"We need to redefine masculinity and show that true strength lies in humility, love, and service." - Joe Baker

Real Men Talk Podcast Blog

Real Men Talk: A Journey of Redemption and Transformation


Real Men Talk is a podcast that aims to inspire and empower men to live purposeful and godly lives. In a recent episode, hosts Anthony Curnutt and Kyler Sowell interviewed Pastor Joe Baker, an associate pastor at Crossroads of the Assembly of God in Lumberton, New Jersey. Pastor Joe shared his powerful story of redemption and transformation, highlighting his journey from a rebellious teenager to a servant leader. This article will delve into the key takeaways from the interview and explore three significant themes: the power of God's love, the importance of brotherhood, and the call to servant leadership.

Key Takeaways

The Power of God's Love

Pastor Joe's story is one of rebellion and brokenness, but it is also a story of redemption and restoration. From a young age, he found himself running from God, engaging in destructive behaviors and relationships. However, God's relentless pursuit of him eventually led to a life-changing encounter at a youth event. Pastor Joe vividly recalls the overwhelming sense of love and forgiveness he experienced, which shattered his pride and transformed his heart.

  "I remember this overwhelming sense of love that just surrounded me. And I was like, 'Oh my gosh, I've had it wrong this entire time.' All the times I told God that I hated him, all the times that I was being absolutely ignorant in spite of myself, that he pursued me and orchestrated all these different things."

This encounter with God's love not only brought Pastor Joe to repentance but also ignited a passion within him to share this love with others. He emphasizes the importance of understanding that God's love is not based on our performance or worthiness but is freely given to all who seek it.

The Importance of Brotherhood

Throughout his journey, Pastor Joe discovered the significance of brotherhood and accountability in the lives of men. He realized that he couldn't walk this path alone and needed the support and encouragement of other like-minded individuals. This realization led him to establish a men's ministry called "Game Day" at his church, where men can come together, build relationships, and grow in their faith.

  "We need each other. We need that accountability. We need that brotherhood. We need to be able to lean on each other, to encourage each other, to challenge each other, and to hold each other accountable."

Pastor Joe emphasizes the importance of creating a safe space for men to be vulnerable and transparent, where they can share their struggles and find support. He believes that true transformation happens within the context of authentic relationships and that men need to be intentional about cultivating these connections.

The Call to Servant Leadership

One of the defining characteristics of true masculinity, according to Pastor Joe, is servant leadership. He draws inspiration from the life of Jesus Christ, who exemplified humility, selflessness, and sacrificial love. Pastor Joe believes that men are called to lead by serving others, just as Jesus did.

  "We have to be willing to lay down our lives for others, to serve others, to put others before ourselves. That's what true masculinity looks like."

He encourages men to embrace their role as servant leaders in their homes, communities, and churches. This involves taking responsibility, being present, and actively seeking opportunities to serve and uplift those around them.


Pastor Joe Baker's story is a powerful testament to the transformative power of God's love and the importance of brotherhood and servant leadership in the lives of men. His journey from rebellion to redemption serves as an inspiration to men who may be struggling with their own faith and purpose. By embracing God's love, cultivating authentic relationships, and embracing servant leadership, men can find true fulfillment and make a positive impact in the world.

As men, let us heed the call to live purposeful and godly lives, supporting and uplifting one another along the way. Together, we can redefine masculinity and create a world where men embrace their true identity as servant leaders, following in the footsteps of Jesus Christ.

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